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	<description>you really think so?</description>
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		<title>By: True Tears 12 &#124; Sea Slugs! Anime Blog</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-23031</link>
		<dc:creator>True Tears 12 &#124; Sea Slugs! Anime Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hearing voices in her head and jumping off trees. Jun&#8217;s going to come home and find Noe stirring an empty pot. Speaking of crazy, I liked how the Nakagami sake is called Tears of the Three [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hearing voices in her head and jumping off trees. Jun&#8217;s going to come home and find Noe stirring an empty pot. Speaking of crazy, I liked how the Nakagami sake is called Tears of the Three [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hontou ni Taihen desu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 10 anime confrontations ~ The catfight edition</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-19897</link>
		<dc:creator>Hontou ni Taihen desu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 10 anime confrontations ~ The catfight edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 01 - Asa vs Kaede (SHUFFLE! 19) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cyw1988</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>cyw1988</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was in the game too... the asa x kaede arc(though it was less developed) i got a feeling that the production crew may have been given extra budget due to the wonderful ratings shuffle got during ep 12-15(ie primura/nerine arc)...so far they have been putting it to good use and lets hope we have an ending worth remembering... hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was in the game too&#8230; the asa x kaede arc(though it was less developed) i got a feeling that the production crew may have been given extra budget due to the wonderful ratings shuffle got during ep 12-15(ie primura/nerine arc)&#8230;so far they have been putting it to good use and lets hope we have an ending worth remembering&#8230; hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Roninnico</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Roninnico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey i'm new here, but i just wanted to say i'm glad i found this website, useful summation of that episode. I have'nt played the game or read the manga, but i've been enjoying the anime. It seemed light and fun. I was also hoping Asa would win, but i didn't think she would (the ones i like never do), but its looking good now. However i just watched this episode and was OMG. It was actually really freaky. we've had some mild human experimentation, a couple of cases of mild skitsphreniea, but this was just scary, i so did not see it coming, maybe i should have? Any way i hope it all works out....Kaede seemed like such a nice person...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey i&#8217;m new here, but i just wanted to say i&#8217;m glad i found this website, useful summation of that episode. I have&#8217;nt played the game or read the manga, but i&#8217;ve been enjoying the anime. It seemed light and fun. I was also hoping Asa would win, but i didn&#8217;t think she would (the ones i like never do), but its looking good now. However i just watched this episode and was OMG. It was actually really freaky. we&#8217;ve had some mild human experimentation, a couple of cases of mild skitsphreniea, but this was just scary, i so did not see it coming, maybe i should have? Any way i hope it all works out&#8230;.Kaede seemed like such a nice person&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MiKo</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>MiKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this chapter they caused much commotion to me, ´talvez to many likes roasts-senpai, but to me from a principle I liked kaede, and although now I have shown its "true one to be" continues liking, and I have the hope of which hopefully and it remains with Rin T.T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this chapter they caused much commotion to me, ´talvez to many likes roasts-senpai, but to me from a principle I liked kaede, and although now I have shown its &#8220;true one to be&#8221; continues liking, and I have the hope of which hopefully and it remains with Rin T.T</p>
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		<title>By: Zyl</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problematic&#62; Thanks for sharing ur thoughts as always! Added dimension to Rin is that he did what he did for Kaede at that tender age even though he must have suffered even more from the death of &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; his own parents (which he revealed in the game that he did grieve deeply for his own parents) AND that he did not resent Kaede even one little bit even though her illness was a contributory factor to the accident.

Stripey&#62; Bro, this episode definitely made Kaede more interesting as a character and showed her seiyuu's range. Now after watching Ep 19, you should go back and rewatch Ep 1 up till Asa's Knight comment and see how everything in the first ep fits in even now and how the seeds of the present were already present then.

I think the crucial factor for change/germination was the arrival of Lisianthus and Nerine which broke Kaede's monopoly on Rin, allowing Asa to sneak in. Ep 7 then broke Asa's self-image and Rin's image of her as "just one of the guys." Ep 13 established that, of all the girls, Asa understood Rin best and that in Ep 14-15 that he trusted her the most and wanted her to be his side as much as possible.  

About the Mahoro analogy though Kaede's looks fit, the progenitor of your blog's title, Minawa better, the whole "I killed your father and let you suffer in your youth" guilt and then maid atonement project fits Kaede better. I actually think that it would be very liberating for Kaede if she could let go of Rin and learn to live for her sake because that would allow her to let go of the enormous burden of her guilt and pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problematic&gt; Thanks for sharing ur thoughts as always! Added dimension to Rin is that he did what he did for Kaede at that tender age even though he must have suffered even more from the death of <em>both</em> his own parents (which he revealed in the game that he did grieve deeply for his own parents) AND that he did not resent Kaede even one little bit even though her illness was a contributory factor to the accident.</p>
<p>Stripey&gt; Bro, this episode definitely made Kaede more interesting as a character and showed her seiyuu&#8217;s range. Now after watching Ep 19, you should go back and rewatch Ep 1 up till Asa&#8217;s Knight comment and see how everything in the first ep fits in even now and how the seeds of the present were already present then.</p>
<p>I think the crucial factor for change/germination was the arrival of Lisianthus and Nerine which broke Kaede&#8217;s monopoly on Rin, allowing Asa to sneak in. Ep 7 then broke Asa&#8217;s self-image and Rin&#8217;s image of her as &#8220;just one of the guys.&#8221; Ep 13 established that, of all the girls, Asa understood Rin best and that in Ep 14-15 that he trusted her the most and wanted her to be his side as much as possible.  </p>
<p>About the Mahoro analogy though Kaede&#8217;s looks fit, the progenitor of your blog&#8217;s title, Minawa better, the whole &#8220;I killed your father and let you suffer in your youth&#8221; guilt and then maid atonement project fits Kaede better. I actually think that it would be very liberating for Kaede if she could let go of Rin and learn to live for her sake because that would allow her to let go of the enormous burden of her guilt and pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Stripey</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Stripey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 08:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops forgot to add... interesting that you mentioned Mahoro cos Kaede has always reminded me of Minawa :P</description>
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		<title>By: Stripey</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Stripey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg omg omg! WAT AN EP! Was otally blown away by the drama in this ep. Believe it or not, I like Kaede even more now. Kaede's seiyuu should win an anime oscar or something for her performance in this ep alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg omg omg! WAT AN EP! Was otally blown away by the drama in this ep. Believe it or not, I like Kaede even more now. Kaede&#8217;s seiyuu should win an anime oscar or something for her performance in this ep alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Problematic</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Problematic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I just saw this eppy and it's the best one by far! Psyco Kaede is scary! It seems Asa's actions haven't affected her relationship with Rin, but Kaede's has. I can't believe he would still live in the same house as her, when she threw a cutter at him, and locked him out of his house. If it was me, I would've ran away because living with homeless people is a lot safer than living with Kaede! No wonder, Sia, Nerine, Asa and Kaede fell in love with Rin! Overall he is an amazing guy...how many would still keep a secret like that when the girl obviously wants you to die. Whats even more amazing is the fact that he kept this up for years, and not days. I would've spilled the beans right after she gained consciousness and started strangling the poor guy. This reminds me of Yamato protecting Suzuka by telling her about why he broke up with Honoka. Geez poor dudes...they receive nothing, but a lashing!

&lt;strong&gt;"I was very surprised by the ferocity of Kaede’s assault on Asa as it was entirely different from the game."&lt;/strong&gt; 

I was too! I thought Kaede was harmless, but than again I should've known better after watching the severe beatings Rin had to go through. Poor Asa, I hope she's ok! Yea I agree with you about the close friend part and feeling betrayed. Kaede knew that Asa knew that Kaede liked Rin ever since the first eppy, so imagine having a someone who you considered as a mentor and a friend do that to you. Yet like they say "All's fair in love and war: FIGHTO ASA-SEMPAI! 

 Awesome review BTW! LOL I didn't want to spoil it, so I barred myself from reading anyone's reviews, but after I watched it, I had to come here first! Gah..best eppy ever! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I just saw this eppy and it&#8217;s the best one by far! Psyco Kaede is scary! It seems Asa&#8217;s actions haven&#8217;t affected her relationship with Rin, but Kaede&#8217;s has. I can&#8217;t believe he would still live in the same house as her, when she threw a cutter at him, and locked him out of his house. If it was me, I would&#8217;ve ran away because living with homeless people is a lot safer than living with Kaede! No wonder, Sia, Nerine, Asa and Kaede fell in love with Rin! Overall he is an amazing guy&#8230;how many would still keep a secret like that when the girl obviously wants you to die. Whats even more amazing is the fact that he kept this up for years, and not days. I would&#8217;ve spilled the beans right after she gained consciousness and started strangling the poor guy. This reminds me of Yamato protecting Suzuka by telling her about why he broke up with Honoka. Geez poor dudes&#8230;they receive nothing, but a lashing!</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I was very surprised by the ferocity of Kaede’s assault on Asa as it was entirely different from the game.&#8221;</strong> </p>
<p>I was too! I thought Kaede was harmless, but than again I should&#8217;ve known better after watching the severe beatings Rin had to go through. Poor Asa, I hope she&#8217;s ok! Yea I agree with you about the close friend part and feeling betrayed. Kaede knew that Asa knew that Kaede liked Rin ever since the first eppy, so imagine having a someone who you considered as a mentor and a friend do that to you. Yet like they say &#8220;All&#8217;s fair in love and war: FIGHTO ASA-SEMPAI! </p>
<p> Awesome review BTW! LOL I didn&#8217;t want to spoil it, so I barred myself from reading anyone&#8217;s reviews, but after I watched it, I had to come here first! Gah..best eppy ever! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Hontou ni Taihen desu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SHUFFLE 12-15</title>
		<link>http://hontouni.com/souomou/2005/11/26/shuffle-19#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Hontou ni Taihen desu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SHUFFLE 12-15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SHUFFLE achieves a feat I have yet to see in any other HGTA and that is the impeccable weaving of multiple storythreads into a flowing tale, while incoporating much of the game&#8217;s plot elements and retaining the spirit of the original game (check out Zyl&#8217;s very excellent SHUFFLE game expositions). This is a tremendous accomplishment since major elements in the individual girls&#8217; stories can sometimes be diametrical, making the integration of these importance elements into a seemingly natural tale, close to impossible. Kudos to the ingenuity of the SHUFFLE team. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SHUFFLE achieves a feat I have yet to see in any other HGTA and that is the impeccable weaving of multiple storythreads into a flowing tale, while incoporating much of the game&#8217;s plot elements and retaining the spirit of the original game (check out Zyl&#8217;s very excellent SHUFFLE game expositions). This is a tremendous accomplishment since major elements in the individual girls&#8217; stories can sometimes be diametrical, making the integration of these importance elements into a seemingly natural tale, close to impossible. Kudos to the ingenuity of the SHUFFLE team. [...]</p>
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